Okay, we get it. You took the soundtrack from our old ad about "Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels ..." and you put it over a list of third-party iPhone apps that we're crushing under the heavy treads of our Apple Panzerkampfwagens. And sure, people are wondering, has Apple changed? Now that the company is riding high, are they different? Less free? Less open? The answer is that of course we have not changed one single bit except in the ways where we've had to change to deal with business realities and even in those ways we haven't really changed except in the sense where occasionally we've had to readjust our priorities or releverage our emphasis and focus in order to achieve greater synergies across a more diverse set of constituents and a wider range of opportunities. Or something. Yeah. Like that. And yes, we believe that this video does represent an inappropriate appropriation of our copyrighted material; and though you might argue that this use is permitted under the concept of "fair use" and in fact you would likely prevail in court, we're still probably going to sue your frigtarded ass and lock you up in a long and costly court battle which will drain your bank account dry and ruin your life. Much love, a-hole. Peace out.
Monday, October 01, 2007
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I like how apple shoots itself in the foot, keeping them from going from "curiosity" to real business. I mean one of the keys to Microsoft's early growth was being cozy with developers. Use our OS as your platform and build apps. We don't want to punish you, we want to pat you on the back(you want money? Sorry, but how about this pat on the back?:)). The more developers there are for your platform, the wider your audience, the wider the spread of your software, simple. Comeon Apple wake-up(I don't expect SPJ to do much since he owns less than .9 % of Apple, the company, but, hey maybe Al Gore(who says he's dumb? Okay, linking hurricanes to global warming shows a complete ignorance of meteorology, but come on...give the guy a break:)) I jumped ship awhile back, and I swear to never go back until SPJ leaves, but hey maybe some big shareholder will hear meh...
phreak on, my brothas!
Dear fSteve,
The pressure is mounting. The damage is growing. There's no shame in admitting you are wrong.
Give us an SDK and all will be forgiven!
Sincerely,
--
Mr. PoopyPants
FSJ is sounding less enlightened these days, more embittered. Less... funny. FSJ, please read your earlier posts. Zen up.
It seems the big underlying conflict regarding the iPhone is whether Apple is going to treat the platform like the iPod (limited) or like the Macintosh - open to outside development, and system updates and new features are applied to earlier models.
Boy, I hope Apple sees the light and treats the iPhone like a new handheld Mac.
they got ya, steve-o. total burn. admit it!
>> I mean one of the keys to Microsoft's early growth was being cozy with developers. Use our OS as your platform and build apps. We don't want to punish you, we want to pat you on the back...
Unless you happened to be creating a product that competed with theirs. Then they did the "patting" using a big ass knife. "DOS isn't done till Lotus won't run."
Or while they were patting you on the back they were looking over your shoulder lifting your code.
when i found this blog a couple of months ago, it was genius....
and nowadays??? lenn seems to be right...
From "The answer" to "range of opportunities" is my new favorite sentence.
Lock the Phone, but open the Touch,
"Developers, developers, developers, developers!"
Apple Panzerkampfwagens
Never heard that before. But you should atleast them enough money to live, or they will have to code more apple hacking things to get money. Or you could be like the CIA and take the hackers and either tell them you'll sue them or they need to take a job at apple sort of thing.
Lenn and Lucky
~~maybe FSJ's lack of Zen lately is a brilliant reflection of SPJ's lack of Zen lately...
Of course, that makes a FSJ blog much less fun, now doesn't it...?
This whole iPhone thing does seem strange. When NeXT brought out the Cube they only courted developers. Granted NeXTStep was way, way ahead of it's time, and they wanted developers to quit writing code on Moto assembly, Pascal and barely even C for Objective C.
Then iPhone comes along and they seem ready to shit all over developers. Don't apps sell hardware Steve? Didn't the Mac survive in the incompetence of Scully and the rest based on certain 'killer apps' like Pagemaker, Quark, and Photoshop?
Maybe you should beg Avi to come back and get this developer mess straightened out.
I love the lack of any sort of insight all the "open up the iPhone for democracy" types have.
You can hack it all you want. Just don't expect support or upgrades if you do. What's so hard to understand about that?
I couldn't watch the whole thing.... it was just too painful. When you're right you're right.
I hope Apple is headed where I think it's headed... working on an api (we all need to realize that it's not something you can do in an afternoon, and it's a lot tougher in this age of the net and security issues)... probably not for iphone but for a future handheld device (it's been called the Newton 2 but it will have the huge difference of being based on the same technology -- OSX -- as the rest of Apple's line).
That API might migrate back to the iphone, but don't be shocked if it doesn't work on this version of the iphone.
Because as much as this ad hurts, the real answer isn't people hacking the OS, it's an API.
Sorry folks,
But as former developer, I have to go with....
You can hack it all you want. Just don't expect support or upgrades if you do. What's so hard to understand about that?
And for the record, any product I brought to Apple was eventually morphed into their product and that was OK too. It's how the game goes. One has to be smart enough to have something in place known as a Product Life Cycle. I don't recall, but it should be part of Marketing 101 in most colleges. Of course, knowing the game and being well-informed, I was always appreciative of the "Well, you know your product may be done if we incorporate blah-blah-blah in the next version?"
It was always a wink, a nudge, a smile. Very hush hush and always on the QT.
If you don't like living on the bleeding edge, then get off the bleeding edge. Simple as that.
If you like the bleeding edge, then by all means, stay on the edge. Just don't expect your desires to be followed as if they were rules, and that the lack of rules and or desires works both ways. Or that the guys actually making and selling the product are going to bend or break their rules according to your desires.
This isn't about Zen. It's about keeping the product pure, simple and easy to use. If you want to see what happens when you let developers modify your system? Well, isn't that the core of the Borg's issue?
Nah, that's not The Borg's issue. OS X does not suffer from the same problems as Windows (or Win Mobile) because OS X hardware is ubiquitous. The iPod out-sells the Zune because of the iTunes eco-system.
If you had said "Wasn't that Palm's problem?" then you'd have a better argument. Remember how unstable Palms got with all those third-party apps? Before Palm put the kabosh on indie developers?
But the iPhone runs OS X. Protected memory. UNIX. All the goodness that makes Mac OS X solid.
Hopefully, Apple's working on an SDK. Otherwise, to their developers and power-users, Apple becomes the enemy. And that's no good for any of us.
aw, man — fsj, who needs a hug, here?
i mean, not like these ungrate-tards don't deserve it, but you're coming through sounding just a wee bit bitter and tender, ol' buddy.
i don't think it's third-party hackers adding dictionaries and sketch pads and a terminal to the precious iPhone sandbox, either. i mean really — who gives a hoot? i think some big grumpy ol' mr. (i)ceo is feeling a bit tender after being hit very hard by nbc/universal/vivendi, then there's the impending sec cross-exam over fred & nancy, and that damn google phone lurking on the event horizon can't be helping much. a lot to tense up ol' el jobso pretty good, if you ask me.
c'mon — everyone, group hug for fsj!! all of youse — vegan vegan, =bg=, fake apple fanboi, the consumer dude, yes, you too anon at the ashram,, just fly bob, the sultry ms. ronnie belmont, mr. poopypants, toki-chan, bob.d.mac, fsjff (tho' i maintain you're nothing but a stalker), grandmother (because who knows how to hug better than a grandmother?), and yes, even you, amd fanboi... yes, yes, woz & kathy "golddigger" griffin can join in too — all of you, circle up! let's surround our fearless leader in his time of need with good vibes and a big circle of huggy-bear luv. and some kona gold wouldn't hurt either.
can you feel the love tonight, fsj? we're all here for you, man.
oh, and commentard whyspjblows —
you're fishing for business analysis accumen is a lot like a scatological obssessed three-year-old fishing for floaters in the bathroom bowl.
if you don't think apple is cozy with developers, then you haven't been to the wwdc in a while.
you prefered apple before jobs came back?!?!? like when? when mike spindler from apple europe was running it? a german, who you think would know from production line engineering, who couldn't get products tooled and to dealerships to save his life, and began the ever losing erosion to gateway and dell? to a time when apple's stock price and market capital were so low they were in danger of evil bastard larry & oracle swallowing them up? oh yeah, i can see you love healthy companies in the black.
and if you think katrina and other hurricanes have nothing to do with climate change and global warming, you're probably one of those fairy tale enthusiasts who think dinosaurs co-existed with adam & eve. how about reading the science first? or is "contempt prior to investigation" your main modus operandii?
you left and vow not come until the jobsmeister leaves? good. so why don't you stay gone. far gone. so far gone we can't hear you any more. like a buddha gone beyond. way beyond, if you get my drift.
How is Apple screwing developers who depended on a hack to have their apps installed on the iPhone? Apple never said it would allow third party apps on their phone. They told developers to make web apps, nothing else. If Apple had released an SDK and then removed the apps with an update, you could argue they were screwing developers.
These developers took a risk by writing iPhone apps that depended on a hack to be installed. That alone should have been a hint that it wasn't a good business plan. That Apple didn't release an SDK and that it told developers to develop web apps is as clear as it can be that Apple doesn't want third party apps installed on the iPhone at this time. Any developer who took the risk of developing an iPhone app despite these facts has no right to complain.
I would like to have third party apps on my phone eventually but I also understand that Apple may not be ready for them right now. Surely Apple wants to have the freedom to make changes to the iPhone without having to worry about breaking developer's apps. Let the iPhone mature and stabilize a bit and then we can bitch and moan if Apple doesn't release and SDK and open up the iPhone.
Faddah! Point taken: I do *not* want the pre-SPJ Apple back.
*Hugs FSJ*
Now, please! An iPhone SDK!
FSJ
theguardian's "Microsoft Jack" Schofield is on your case **again**. Can you do something about him?
http://tinyurl.com/3yopcw
C'mon. Let us in. There isn't anyone inside this big wooden horse. Please? Be reasonable. Third party apps never hurt anyone...now open the gaddamn door!
Don't change FSJ. Best blog in America.
Yo, Anon...
C'mon. Let us in. There isn't anyone inside this big wooden horse. Please? Be reasonable. Third party apps never hurt anyone...now open the gaddamn door!
Now THAT made me chuckle.
I think a big part of the disconnect with these arguments is that few arguing FOR opening the iPhone have ever had to go to the boss and say "Uh, boss? You know that crash we had on Monday, the one that took down the whole network? Yeah, the one we determined was caused by the fun little game I put on the server? Yeah, that was HIS fault for not checking it for hacks or holes!"
Yeah, it's like dat, y'all.
Faddah,
Your linguistic stylings are to be commended.
I couldn't have said it any better than you about whyspjblows comments which are complete "Rubbish."
You, please stay around. You make me laugh.
TCD
Steve,
Our attorneys are in attack mode this month.
This will be taken care of accordinly.
a.k.a The fake Apple Board of Directors
Funny, most of the posts seem to think it's about the developers. Me, I think it's all about the $$ - from AT&T. Likely AT&T has been beating up on Apple to fix the hack, and Apple did a quick-and-dirty solution without testing against (or caring about) impact on "valued" third party apps that might get broken. Now, either developers come up with new solutions or Apple restores functionality in another patch once they spend more time locking the system down to AT&T network. Regardless, those AT&T dollars keep on flowing...
I can't believe how some morons treat the words of an advertisment like it's some sacred text. We're talking about a commercial people, not something Buddha or Sun Tzu wrote in the Bible.
Get over yourselves!
I do not understand this article properly so i can not give my views on it.
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antra
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